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muscleflexin
06-07-03, 01:18 PM
Any experience with their products??? (paradeca, EQ, Test or others) :banghead:

YellowJacket
06-07-03, 03:54 PM
Bah, all overpriced and underdosed. If you're looking for pro hormones or pro steroids, go with Avant Labs, BDC Nutrition, Molecular Nutrition or Ergopharms.

Stryder364
06-09-03, 08:33 PM
I'm currently using their 1 test product and am quite happy with it.

gollum1234
06-18-03, 11:34 AM
tried their 1-Test with good results and the clenbutrex is top notch for getting amped before a workout.

Stryder364
06-29-03, 01:15 PM
With the one test, if your over 200 lbs I siggest doubling the dosage, i have had outstanding results with strength and some lean muslce gain.

timeahs
07-02-03, 02:09 PM
Question, how long would a bottle of vpx 1-test last me and what size bottle are we talking about, assuming that I'm going to double dose? Also, anybody try the Syngex 1 or 2 yet? VPX looks so tempting and the literature is solid, but ergopharm's is also and I know I'm getting big results here. Anybody tried both and have any claims to the better or the 2, ergopharm or vpx?

7SiNz
07-02-03, 07:29 PM
I've tested a few different stacks over the last two years and from what I took I like these combo's

Ergopharm's 1-Ad with Biotests 4AD-EC was awesome. Muscles really felt full and strength was way up.


Just finished VPX 1 Test and VPX EQ and I thought it was equally as good, For me, maybe a little bit better. I didn't get as lethargic as I did on the 1-AD..

I have a friend that tried the Syngex 1 with EQ and he got really good results. In his opinion this is the best stack that VPX has out right now....He has also tried different stacks. Between the two of us, we kind of made a pack to each other, to tryout different stacks to see what works best.

I would like to tryout VPX 1Test or Syngex 1 or 2 with Biotest 4-AD-EC... haha Maybe I will :)

I really like how the Mag10 and 4-AD-EC make my muscles feel. They feel really full and solid.

Hope I've helped a little .. Oops forgot..

I'm 230lbs so on the VPX stuff I take 150% of recommended dosage.

muscleflexin
07-08-03, 03:23 PM
I'm stacking EQ with Paradeca right now and am 220lbs.
Recently started taking 1 and 1/2 times the dose and
it's been working much better. People in the gym have
noticed a size increase. It's not a quick increase that's real
noticable but over time people who don't see you every day
will see changes in a month. Just keep the dose up higher if you're
200lbs or better. Oh yeah, you still have to train hard!

Redshirt27SE
07-08-03, 06:34 PM
timeahs, which ergopharms products are you comparing to which VPX products? 1-test is one of the best legal supplements you can buy, 4-ad is decent as well but is worse on the side effects. 1-ad I have no idea, but I hear good things.

bear82
07-08-03, 06:56 PM
ergopharm 1-AD is quality that can't be beaten right now on the market. i took it with xenadrine about a year ago to harden up and i gained 6lbs and dropped 6%bf. i used double dosage for 8on/2off for three cycles. i like it. VPX, on the other hand, didn't do dick for me. i stacked the 1-test polycarbonate(sp?) with EQ and it did nothing. i took double dose of vpx cuz i weigh around 240. fuck prohormones. they will give u just as much acne as the real deal, and if u take enough to actually see a change, there will be testicular sides as well. u might as well do the real thing or stick to creatine and protein.