Comments on using Yohimburn to lean up Face (perhaps its most impressive application)

[Frackal]

I feel this is by FAR the best use for yohimburn... I thought I'd introduce it over here...if you have nice features but they're washed out from estro-fat, gear induced or not this can cure it for you and make you look 1000x better in the process. Give it a shot if it's something you think can help you.


I've been using it on my face 4x a week including 1x in the morning before doing cardio and I have to say again for many of us this is the SINGLE best thing you can do to improve the look of your face short of plastic surgery... no all people will benefit significantly, it's dependent on a few factors including your own facial structure. However, most people's faces look much improved the leaner they are, and this can also help keep you looking young as that bloated, somewhat distorted appearance is a common side effect of aging.

Anyway, some good things are happening for me and I thought I should give a thank you in the form of a rave review.

A couple things to add: Green tea + r-ala is great to use if you drink a carb drink such as gatorade during training...both will slow the glycemic release potentiating the yohimburn while still allowing you to drink the carbs.

Make sure to apply it ALL over your face, not just on your jawline for example because it WILL lean that area up moreso than your cheekbones if you apply it to too closed an area.

[me_dimitri]

Hi,

thanks for the Tip...
Any problems with the eyes watering etc. ? The vapors seem pretty Harsh. Does this include the new version with the caffine added?

Thanks,

Dimitri

[Ceebs]

Originally posted by me_dimitri
Any problems with the eyes watering etc. ? The vapors seem pretty Harsh. Does this include the new version with the caffine added?

I'm curious about this too - are you using the original Yohimburn or the DF version? I've been meaning to order a bottle of this stuff for quite a long time, as well as AF's new nootropic product...

[Frackal]

Use the DF for the face - the regular will bloat your face first which will make dislike it.

Also fumes are not bad.

Hey ceebs waht do you think of this pickup line:


"Baby your eyes are so beautiful - If I were Hannibal Lector I'd eat them first"

Good/bad

[Mikey D-time]

I have some DF on the way and plan using it to chisle my face back up a little bit.

[Ceebs]

Just did my first application of Yohimburn DF to the cheeks, chin, and temples. All of you guys who say it burns uncomfortably have never had a facial in a salon. :rolleyes:

How many pumps are you all using? One and a half seems to be enough coverage for me...

[macro]

Originally posted by Ceebs
Just did my first application of Yohimburn DF to the cheeks, chin, and temples. All of you guys who say it burns uncomfortably have never had a facial in a salon. :rolleyes:



:viking:

:p

[macro]

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=256508

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=244836

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=226260

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=180960

[macro]

frackal,

update on your new experiment?

[C3bodybuilding]

I use Yohimburn df. It gave me back my old face and then some. I'm not big on posting pics, especially of my face on the boards, but if anyone is serious about the product, and wants to see the kind of results I got, pm me, and I'll try to send a couple of before and afters.

I make sure to shave before applying it, and I use a facial scrub a couple of times a week. I feel it helps the product work a little bit better. Then I apply just enough to cover my face, not a drop more or less. This can be a pump for some, a pump and a half for others, etc. I do this about 45mins before my workout. During my workout, I always feel a little extra boost when I apply the yohimburn. It feels like I drank a strong cup of coffee. It's a nice added bonus to the product.

I also would apply it before bed on my off days. Now I just use it on training days. The results were incredible. My face went back to it's old self and then some. It felt good to look like 'me' again. Sometimes a product comes along that really works, this is one of them.

[Frackal]

Originally posted by macro
frackal,

update on your new experiment?


Very good and yes there is a definite tangible difference... being that it is simply and noticeably more effective. This week I'm going to call Ulter and give him my thoughts. But basically it simply works better.

[Ceebs]

If Frackal's "new experiment" is the same as mine, I concur - noticed a change in vascularity by the third (!!) application, in a place where I'm not usually vascular at all, and apart from that, it does seem to work more quickly. :)

[saint808]

i use a facial steamer to open my pores and an exfoliant... penetration is key... let the jokes gly there.

[macro]

:D

[lifter4life]

Is no one else having the problem of this breaking out there face a bit?

[Frackal]

I used to think it did the same but I believe it only increases redness of the already inflamed pores...its possible that it may clear the pores out faster too, helping acne in the long run but making it more visible in the short term.

[Ceebs]

Originally posted by lifter4life
Is no one else having the problem of this breaking out there face a bit?

No, and I'm acne prone. It does seem to make the pores larger in the short term, though.

Are you sure your face is clean and exfoliated before you apply it? It could be carrying dirt/sebum/what have you into your pores, and that's why you're breaking out.

[lifter4life]

Or it could just be the test. :D

[BigDan650dl]

I hope this isnt a load of shit. My face is starting to look rather distorter from the juice. The other day I had a girl tell me that I looked chubbier than usual and I am 255lbs at 8.5% what the fuck is that. My face looks chubby, my dad even said something the other day

[macro]

any updates, particularly "special updates"? :p

[lifter4life]

The face thing on gear just sucks. Everyone keeps telling me I look like I am getting fatter and I know I am not. Does anyone have some before and after pics they would share on the yo-df on the face? I have tried this on and off, but I guess it will just have to be continous for a while. If I go 3 times a day, how long do you think it will take for a noticable improvement?

[Ceebs]

Originally posted by lifter4life
Does anyone have some before and after pics they would share on the yo-df on the face?

I do have some, but not on this computer - I can post them later though. I've been meaning to do that anyway. There's one of me taken three days ago on the "Pictures of Members" forum, and my chin, cheeks, and temples are MUCH leaner than they were a few months ago at more or less this same weight. http://www.chemicalmuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=62759#post62759

Three times a day seems excessive. Are you going to be working out three times a day to make the most of it?

[Lift Chief]

I haven't been impressed.

Maybe i'm one of the non-responders.

[Frackal]

Originally posted by macro
any updates, particularly "special updates"? :p

Definitely faster and better. More pronounced...(more loss w/ same or less quantity), better stim, and possibly a whole-body incease in fatloss not seen with the last. (Hard to quantify becuase started alcar and GT about a week before...but I believe it does. It's a worthy successor IMO macro.

[saint808]

Originally posted by lifter4life
The face thing on gear just sucks. Everyone keeps telling me I look like I am getting fatter and I know I am not. Does anyone have some before and after pics they would share on the yo-df on the face? I have tried this on and off, but I guess it will just have to be continous for a while. If I go 3 times a day, how long do you think it will take for a noticable improvement?

yohimbine in general works better off cycle... so when you come off would be the best time to take it.... even when i am bulking natty my face gets way more round.

[Ceebs]

Okay, here we go.

A point of reference, this is me in 1999, skinny-fat, weighing about a buck twenty at 5'9". Note the residual cheek pudge, even at that weight.

[Ceebs]

This is me in October/November of 2002, weight in the 140's.

[Ceebs]

And this is me in December of this year, after three weeks of halfhearted cutting, a week off with lots of chocolate :p, and six weeks of everything-dialed-in cutting, while actively using Yohimburn. I weighed in at 143 this morning.

I applied a pump and a half to my cheeks, chin, temples, and sometimes across the bridge of my nose 20-30 minutes before doing 40-60 minutes of moderate intensity cardio, four to five times a week, on a very empty stomach. I just within the last couple of weeks started the "special" Yohimburn DF, which would be four pumps, since the pumps are smaller. Same quantity, better results. :D

The one on the left was taken the morning of the 9th, after a carb-up on the night of the 7th, and I just now snapped the one on the right. No makeup, no frills.

Basically, the only way I could be more impressed with Yohimburn is if it did my laundry, bought me flowers, and kept my roots nice and blonde. (Which reminds me, I need to bleach.)

[Hazcat]

Are those lips inviting or what......damn

[dre009]

i have a big problem with retaining water because it runs in the genes (dad has big cheeks) so if this stuff really works then i am straight. how many times should i put it on, and do i use the recommend dosage or more. can i use it at work or better when i am running. thank you very much for posting this.

[Tiervexx]

Originally posted by Ceebs
Okay, here we go.

A point of reference, this is me in 1999, skinny-fat, weighing about a buck twenty at 5'9". Note the residual cheek pudge, even at that weight.

Who is your date? He's kind of cute!

[Ceebs]

Originally posted by Tiervexx
Who is your date? He's kind of cute!

Oh, he wasn't my date - his name's Miguel, and he played guitar for a band on the label I worked for at the time. I think he'd look less bored if he were my date. :)

dre009, macro can better answer your questions, but here are my suggestions:

Once a day at the recommended dose is sufficient, pre-cardio, at least two hours from your last meal, and do not eat for at least an hour and a half after applying it. Cleaning up your diet and improving your insulin sensitivity (factors like processed high glycemic carbs, not working out, and AAS will decrease insulin sensitivity) will go a long way towards reducing facial water and whole body retention.

Yohimbine temporarily reduces insulin sensitivity as well, which is the reason why you don't want anything that could elicit an insulin response while it's active, and why it's not much benefit if you're bulking - too much insulin, no calorie deficit. Significant fat loss won't happen if there's not a calorie deficit, period.

You may also have a food allergy/intolerance that bloats you all over, and you notice it the most in your face - wheat does horrible things to me, water retention wise.

I can't emphasize how important it is that you watch your diet and do cardio on it - I've done it both ways, strict and lax, and I've gotten so much better results when I was strict about my diet and training. I would have liked to have been leaner before starting it to really scrape away the stubborn fat, but as you can see, it works well enough even if you're not death-sucking-on-a-cracker lean.

Hi-ho cheekbones, ahoy!

[dre009]

i am right now juicing,yohimburn would only be good if i am off cycle. or can iuse it with minimal effects. thanks for the reply.

[Ceebs]

i am right now juicing,yohimburn would only be good if i am off cycle. or can iuse it with minimal effects. thanks for the reply.

Need a little more information here - are you bulking or cutting?

[Frackal]

Who is your date? He's kind of cute!

groeth man

[dre009]

i am bulking and i have gained 17 pounds in the last two months. i am still bulking but the problem is my face looks like i am one of the chipmunks.

[macro]

with facial use, particularly since it is such a small amount of fat (that makes a big difference in appearance, even with calorie excess You can still lose fat. though obviously slower. The issue of importance is activity at time of application. So long as calorie deficit is significant at time of high application activity (the 1-2hr window after application) losses can still be achieved. though again as stated losses will not be a significant as with calorie restriction.


when bulking some use it more a prophalactic to reduce facial fat gain.

[dre009]

thanks for the reply, i am going to order it and i should use it two times a day. do you thimk it is wise to use a hebal diuretic pill.

[CRUSHER911]

it had a good effect on my chin and face as far as knocking out the d-bol bloat, but did nothing for love handles...i have heard that wrapping seran wrap around your waist after application helps...is this tru???

[macro]

if handles did not respond they are more likely a insulogenic issue, though handles are most commonly predominantly due to A2 issues.

Glucorellr and/or low glycemic carbs (as well as omega3 rich diet) is probably the route you should take

[wutangnomo]

Mac I bought a bottle of yohimburn DF a long time ago (over a year ago...maybe 1.5 years I don't quite recall when).

I still have some left. How long can it last? Thanks.

[macro]

Mac I bought a bottle of yohimburn DF a long time ago (over a year ago...maybe 1.5 years I don't quite recall when).

I still have some left. How long can it last? Thanks.

while it will still be effective, it should preferably be used within 6 months of purchase for maximal potency..

[macro]

as a note for those that like
YDF and for those that few have tried and enjoyed YDF-a
get ready for YES

[Frackal]

Yohimurn Extra Strength?

Is YDF-A the version I have?

Is YES different than YDA

Did you get my PM about the other thing?

I bet one of your least favorite activities is typing out lengthy responses

:)

[Goddess]

Got my Yohimburn ES today and decided to try it on my face before going to bed. I think I may have squeesed the pump too hard because the stuff just squirted out and almost landed in my eye. :lol:
My eyes were watery for at least 10mns after. :tounge:

[Ceebs]

Update: my mother was so impressed by my results with Yohimburn, she's now going to begin using it on her chin and jawline, where she has some stubborn fat. This is a woman who "doesn't believe in fatburners". :)

Chalk up another Yohimburn convert. I will post her results when they come.

[t04rdeez]

any updates? o ya, should i just DF on my face or ES?

some days i get puffy cheeks and it will last for a couple days, then my cheeks will go back to normal for a couple weeks and then the puffiness will occur again. It's really annoying when i get puffy cheeks because i get self consious about them...do any of you guys know what can be causing this and if Yohimburn DF is my solution to this problem? Thanks

[Ceebs]

any updates? o ya, should i just DF on my face or ES?

DF will certainly produce results on your face, but in my experience, the results from ES are more dramatic. I am downright shocked how well it works on the face - possibly because there is less bodyfat there porportionately than on the rest of your body?

One thing which could be causing your puffy cheeks is a food allergy or intolerance. Can you corellate the puffyness with a change in your diet?

[Frackal]

Go with ES

ES will attack non alpha-2 fat also ... which is better...I think that you might get a more symmetrical leaning effect from this more universal formula

[t04rdeez]

DF will certainly produce results on your face, but in my experience, the results from ES are more dramatic. I am downright shocked how well it works on the face - possibly because there is less bodyfat there porportionately than on the rest of your body?

One thing which could be causing your puffy cheeks is a food allergy or intolerance. Can you corellate the puffyness with a change in your diet?
yeah im gonna try changing up my diet...is there anyway i doctor and find out what food i might be allergic too so i know to avoid them? Someone also said it could be getting too many carbs causing insulin spikes or sodium causing water retention...i dunno which one??

[t04rdeez]

DF will certainly produce results on your face, but in my experience, the results from ES are more dramatic. I am downright shocked how well it works on the face - possibly because there is less bodyfat there porportionately than on the rest of your body?

One thing which could be causing your puffy cheeks is a food allergy or intolerance. Can you corellate the puffyness with a change in your diet?

O yeah, is there any way you and post or PM me pictures of you results so i can see how effective YES is? Thanks!

[Ceebs]

Someone also said it could be getting too many carbs causing insulin spikes or sodium causing water retention...i dunno which one??

Could be either, frankly. High insulin levels in general will make you retain water. What are your carb sources, and how many carbs do you eat per day?

Common allergens/food intolerances which can cause bloating are wheat, dairy, soy, and additives like artificial coloring or flavoring. (Yellow #5, Red #3, MSG, etc.)

The only way to tell what you might be allergic to would be to do an elimination diet - eliminate one of these foods from your diet for a week, and see if the bloating goes away and stays away. There's a thread on Strong Chick about bloating due to carbs and/or food intolerances you may find relevant: http://www.irontrybe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8425

I'm kind of sketchy on posting pictures due to a stalker, but I'll put my before and afters up for you again until tomorrow night.

The one on the left was in 1999 when I was skinny-fat (notice the cheek pudge even then), the one in the middle on the left was at a healthy weight pre-Yohimburn, the one in the middle on the right was after using Yohimburn for several weeks, and I just took the one on the far right, which is after a few weeks of Yohimburn ES (with a hypocaloric diet and excercise, of course). Note the changes, especially in cheekbones and jawline. Even my browbone is leaner.

BTW, the afters are all bare skin - no makeup save for some eyebrow pencil and lip balm.

[TheHamburgler]

Hi, I was planning on using the Yohimburn ES.....I have a lean body, but I cant seem to get rid of my baby face.....Ceebs it seems that you have had good results! When you started using it did it irritate your skin(burning, breakouts, or redness)?

[Ceebs]

Hi, I was planning on using the Yohimburn ES.....I have a lean body, but I cant seem to get rid of my baby face.....Ceebs it seems that you have had good results! When you started using it did it irritate your skin(burning, breakouts, or redness)?

Did you register just to post to this thread? Aww. :)

I'm acne prone, and it did not irritate my skin, nor trigger breakouts. It made the skin on my face shinier and the pores a little bigger in the short term, however. There is a mild tingling action to it, and a LOT of vapours from the peppermint oil which will make your eyes water, so you may want to have something to fan yourself with for about 10 minutes after you apply it. (I like to don a Scarlett O'Hara accent when I fan myself.)

[t04rdeez]

do food allergins just cause bloating in the face? I know for sure that i do not having bloating in my stomach, hands, feet, etc. It only seems to happen in my face!

[TheHamburgler]

Yeah....I registered just to post to this thread :D

Thanks for your help Ceebs.....I should have my bottle of YES this coming week....I cant wait! I was planning on using the YES before I go to sleep, when do you use it?

[t04rdeez]

o ya thanks for posting the pics...theres such a noticable difference from the first pic and the 2nd to last one! I think i gotta get a bottle for myself!

[MrMakaveli]

I loved AF products but honeslty never was in favor of the yohimburn until now. 3 weeks of semi-dieting (Thermorexin+R-ALA+Cardio..diet is uhh...bad) and I'm amazed at my face.

[Frackal]

Did you register just to post to this thread? Aww. :)

I'm acne prone, and it did not irritate my skin, nor trigger breakouts. It made the skin on my face shinier and the pores a little bigger in the short term, however. There is a mild tingling action to it, and a LOT of vapours from the peppermint oil which will make your eyes water, so you may want to have something to fan yourself with for about 10 minutes after you apply it. (I like to don a Scarlett O'Hara accent when I fan myself.)

:)


For some, such as myself, strategic face leaning can do more than some degrees of plastic surgery.

There's a secret to making yourself look even better with yohimburn.

I'll give a hint.

If you want to make a feature bigger

Make the area around it smaller.

Yohimburn is site specific enough for this.

[MrMakaveli]

Ok I tried an experiment.

After a long night of no sleep I had bags under my eyes so I applied a TINY amount of YES to them and they diminished greatly.

Not recomending it by any stretch but I had zero "tearing" due to fumes and look 1000x better. Just throwing it out there for comments or the like.

[t04rdeez]

Can i use Yohimburn while im bulking up? For example if i use the spray then go to the gym to lift weights and run for about 20 mins, go home and eat a big healthy meal, will i still see the results? Or do i have to cut a substantial amout of calories and do a lot of cardio?

[Ceebs]

Can i use Yohimburn while im bulking up? For example if i use the spray then go to the gym to lift weights and run for about 20 mins, go home and eat a big healthy meal, will i still see the results? Or do i have to cut a substantial amout of calories and do a lot of cardio?

Macro answered this earlier in the thread, emphasis added by me:

"with facial use, particularly since it is such a small amount of fat (that makes a big difference in appearance, even with calorie excess You can still lose fat. though obviously slower. The issue of importance is activity at time of application. So long as calorie deficit is significant at time of high application activity (the 1-2hr window after application) losses can still be achieved. though again as stated losses will not be a significant as with calorie restriction. when bulking some use it more a prophalactic to reduce facial fat gain."

So basically, not eating around when you use it is the key.

I'd like to thank Frackal again for his recommendation of Yohimburn - if it wasn't for him (and my envy of Jaime Pressly's cheekbones), I'd have never tried it in the first place. :)

[t04rdeez]

Macro answered this earlier in the thread, emphasis added by me:

"with facial use, particularly since it is such a small amount of fat (that makes a big difference in appearance, even with calorie excess You can still lose fat. though obviously slower. The issue of importance is activity at time of application. So long as calorie deficit is significant at time of high application activity (the 1-2hr window after application) losses can still be achieved. though again as stated losses will not be a significant as with calorie restriction. when bulking some use it more a prophalactic to reduce facial fat gain."

So basically, not eating around when you use it is the key.

I'd like to thank Frackal again for his recommendation of Yohimburn - if it wasn't for him (and my envy of Jaime Pressly's cheekbones), I'd have never tried it in the first place. :)

so basically don't even a couple hours before and after your workout and you should be fine?

[Frackal]

Macro answered this earlier in the thread, emphasis added by
I'd like to thank Frackal again for his recommendation of Yohimburn - if it wasn't for him (and my envy of Jaime Pressly's cheekbones), I'd have never tried it in the first place. :)


Hey guess what ... she and the PT stopped dating and she came into my work and gave me her new number.

[Ceebs]

so basically don't even a couple hours before and after your workout and you should be fine?

Don't eat a couple of hours before and after application. It will be more effective if you work out shortly after applying it.

Hey guess what ... she and the PT stopped dating and she came into my work and gave me her new number.

Sweet, yo. That makes me as happy as having shredded Yohimburned cheeks. :dancing:

[t04rdeez]

Don't eat a couple of hours before and after application. It will be more effective if you work out shortly after applying it.



Sweet, yo. That makes me as happy as having shredded Yohimburned cheeks. :dancing:

thanks ceebs for all your help! i appreciate it...im about to order mine in a week or so and ill let you know how it goes. After i spray it on a workout does it just dry, or do i have to wash it off after i get home from the gym? thanks!

[TheHamburgler]

Okay I just got my Y-ES. Here is my routine for applying, can someone tell me if this routine will work.


Morning:
Wash face, and apply Y-ES wait 2 hours and apply neutrogena oil-free moisture spf...does not clog pores.

Night:
Wash face, and Apply Y-ES every other night before bed. On the nights that I dont apply Y-ES I use Retin-a Micro.

I do not do workout, and I do not diet.

Thanks for the help! :D

[Ceebs]

After i spray it on a workout does it just dry, or do i have to wash it off after i get home from the gym? thanks!

For accuracy, because the pump is so powerful, I would not recommend spraying it on a body part - spray it into your hand, then rub it on. It dries within 5-10 minutes. Make sure the area you're applying it to is clean and exfoliated.

Okay I just got my Y-ES. Here is my routine for applying, can someone tell me if this routine will work.

It will certainly work, provided you do not eat around using it, however results will be more significant if you work out shortly after application, and there is calorie restriction and overall healthy eating present. If you don't find the results impressive without these factors, you may want to start dieting and working out. :)

[TheHamburgler]

Ceebs, My yohimburn does not spray out it kinda oozes out of the pump. Is it supposed to come out like a spray Like hairspray?

I'm going to start playing basketball everyday next week so I guess I can use Y-ES before basketball

[Frackal]

Here's a serious face leaning stack by the self-procalimed face-leaning O.G. ( <- me )

Wake Up:

Yohimburn ES: 4 sprays per cheek, rub all over including nose, forehead/brow area optional (do this about 20min before cardio)

45 or so Min before cardio:

2-3g alcar
500mg EGCG from Green Tea extract (probably a bit over 1g total extract)
2 Thermorexin + 2 Neurogenex (my preference)

1 Glucorell-r 15 minutes before eating:
1-2 Scoop Gplenish (by this point AF loves me)
Small dose of fructose, such as a *small* slice of an apple (still 45-60 min before cardio)

1-500mg Rhodiola Rosea (optional, should help endurance as well as helping to release fat into bloodstream to be burnt. (99% sure on that)

Cardio: HIIT cardio, 12-20 min depending on personal factors...windsprint style

Dont eat anything for 2 hours after

[t04rdeez]

Here's a serious face leaning stack by the self-procalimed face-leaning O.G. ( <- me )


45 or so Min before cardio:

2-3g alcar
500mg EGCG from Green Tea extract (probably a bit over 1g total extract)
2 Thermorexin + 2 Neurogenex (my preference)

1 Glucorell-r 15 minutes before eating:
1-2 Scoop Gplenish (by this point AF loves me)
Small dose of fructose, such as a *small* slice of an apple (still 45-60 min before cardio)

1-500mg Rhodiola Rosea (optional, should help endurance as well as helping to release fat into bloodstream to be burnt. (99% sure on that)

Cardio: HIIT cardio, 12-20 min depending on personal factors...windsprint style

Dont eat anything for 2 hours after

sorry for my ignorance but wtf is thermorexin, neurogenex, glucorell, gplenish, rhodiola rosea???

[Frackal]

Do a search...the first 4 are various products offered by a company called Anafit... the last is a nutrient that is in small amount in thermorexin but which I take 1g per day of from beyond a century.

Thermorexin - My preferred thermogenic
Neurogenex - Nootropic and performance booster
Glucorell - R-ala supplement used in this case to keep insulin levels low (Yohim. works best in that environment..as does caffeine probably the xanthines and the fatloss process in general)
Gplenish - Glutamine bound to other aminos to allow successful passage through digestive tract
Rhodiola - Performance enhancer etc as I already detailed out above

[Frackal]

BTW the first 4 can be gotten here at the Iron store and the last from beyond a century... though rhodiola is quite unpleasant raw.

[TheHamburgler]

Frackal, how long did it take for you to see results using Y-ES?

Thanks!

[Frackal]

Within the first couple applications... that's going to depend on many many factors though...such as amount of facial fat... caloric deficit during time of activity... individual response etc...but I say less than 2 weeks to see something really good. Using 3-4x a week

[saint808]

I just started the ES today and will keep you updated on how effective the new formula is since i am posting it on cem as well.

[ruspa81]

Are you guys saying, don't eat anything at all before and after, or just don't carbs. My concern is that since you guys recommend not eating for 2 hours before or after application I am going to go into a severe nutritional defecit, especially if I dont eat post workout. I am on a semi diet and doing cardio, but I am very afraid that by not eating for some long I will go into a catabolic state. What are you thoughts on this?

[MrMakaveli]

Are you guys saying, don't eat anything at all before and after, or just don't carbs. My concern is that since you guys recommend not eating for 2 hours before or after application I am going to go into a severe nutritional defecit, especially if I dont eat post workout. I am on a semi diet and doing cardio, but I am very afraid that by not eating for some long I will go into a catabolic state. What are you thoughts on this?

Wouldnt a Keto Meal+100mg R-ALA be perfectly fine in place of waiting 2 hours? Insulin would already be low due to fat content and R-ALA would keep plasma insulin down.

[t04rdeez]

i have a question for you Yorimburn experts...


If i eat directly after working out (lifting and cardio), how come this will not make Yorimburn effective as opposed to waiting 2 hours after working out and eating? I ask this because i like to eat after i lift.

[Frackal]

If you are weight training with the goal being building muscle:

I suggest following your normal PW meal schedule. There will still be some fat burning benefit that occurs during training.

For cardio:

Do it in the morning. Preferably follow my plan but if not take 1-2 scoops whey and if using glucorell take 1 of those 15 min before the whey. Do this about 45 -60 min before training...As I already mentioned on the previous page.

I assumed the point to not eating would be obvious...any meal is going to slow the fatburning process... quicker if it causes an appreciable glycemic response...

If doing HIIT cardio (which IMO you should be) then the 2 hours after and 45 min before dont even add up to 3 hours total w/o protein...but do cover the highest time of elevated metabolic rate and highest time of yohimburn activity.

[t04rdeez]

If you are weight training with the goal being building muscle:

I suggest following your normal PW meal schedule. There will still be some fat burning benefit that occurs during training.

For cardio:

Do it in the morning. Preferably follow my plan but if not take 1-2 scoops whey and if using glucorell take 1 of those 15 min before the whey. Do this about 45 -60 min before training...As I already mentioned on the previous page.

I assumed the point to not eating would be obvious...any meal is going to slow the fatburning process... quicker if it causes an appreciable glycemic response...

If doing HIIT cardio (which IMO you should be) then the 2 hours after and 45 min before dont even add up to 3 hours total w/o protein...but do cover the highest time of elevated metabolic rate and highest time of yohimburn activity.

thanks, but what is HIIT cardio? and what if i can't do cardio in the morning?

i was planning eating lunch at 12, doing cardio at 3, weight lifting at 6, and dinner right after, does this sound like a good plan?

[ruspa81]

thanks, but what is HIIT cardio? and what if i can't do cardio in the morning?

i was planning eating lunch at 12, doing cardio at 3, weight lifting at 6, and dinner right after, does this sound like a good plan?

High Intensity Interval Training. Here is a link if you are interested.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/kurilla1.htm

[t04rdeez]

High Intensity Interval Training. Here is a link if you are interested.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/kurilla1.htm

thanks, that was a really informative read

[t04rdeez]

any updates from anyone that started using it? I should be getting mine in the mail by the end of this week.

[Frackal]

Yohimburn made me so pretty I sent Anabolic Fitness an after picture and macro sent me back a marriage proposal

[Ceebs]

Still using it a couple of times a week on my face. Still doing double-takes now and then when I look in the mirror. :)

[t04rdeez]

OMG!!

i just put it on for the first time and it burnnnnnnssss!!!!! wow...its burns..

[christmanb]

Just started using it, after reading this post. Will update in couple of weeks.

[t04rdeez]

What should my diet be like? Should i cut down the calories in my diet? A little info about my body size is im 6 feet tall, 170lbs, im pretty lean with not a lot of fat on me, just chubby cheeks im trying to get ride of.

[Mattyboy01]

gotta admit something here, I just joined this site because i was looking online for someway to burn my chubby cheaks away and this dicusson was what I started reading. I was so convinced that I bought a bottle of Yohimburn DF and have been using it for about 4 days. I use it when I ride my indoor bicycle (with restraint) for 30 mins and right before i go to bed. Havent really noticed a difference yet but im not sure if its due to my poor diet or only 30 mins of exercise. Im 20 years old, 6'5'' and 210 pounds. I usuall get up in the morning and eat a muffin and drink some coffee with a lot of frech vanilla creamer (have a feeling thats not good). and during work around noon I'll stop by the closest fast food joint and pick something up to eat. at night before i go to school I get on the bike and then eat some dinner (usually some hot dogs, chicken, pizza or something) after class i get home wash my face with regular soap apply the YDF and let it dry and then hit the sack.

Couple questions and comments here...
1. Is your diet extremly important if you work out everyday?
2. Is cardio (running, riding my bike) the best way to excerise for using this product?
3. I also play basketball a lot and have thought about using it then.
4. I have a tall slim build like I always have but now since I started college a few semesters ago and went on the fast food binge Ive delevoped a fat face, ugg.

Any advice would be fantastic! even constructive critisim :p

[Frackal]

Yes
For the most part yes
Maybe a good idea

Diet is key.

[t04rdeez]

Hey thanks everyone for helping me out with yohimburn!!! ive only been using it for 5 days and the results show already!! my lower cheeks got a little slimmer and my face doesnt "feel" as chubby. this stuff really works!

[Ceebs]

I would say diet is very important, however I come from the oldschool cutting mindset; focus on what you can do to lose fat, before you focus on what you can take to lose fat. :)

(Or smear all over yourself and smell like a candy cane, in this case.)

Glad to hear you're seeing results so quickly, t04rdeez. It's pretty dramatic with the ES on the face!

[saint808]

[QUOTE=Ceebs]I would say diet is very important, however I come from the oldschool cutting mindset; focus on what you can do to lose fat, before you focus on what you can take to lose fat. :)

QUOTE]

most important thing said in this thread... and yes the ES is rocking

[bear82]

glad u see results on yohimburn...I used it last summer and got nothing from it. shame. I was dissappointed cuz i heard such great things. I was dieting and i saw no more of a change than with dieting alone. it DID keep some water out of my belly however. thats all tho.

[t04rdeez]

glad u see results on yohimburn...I used it last summer and got nothing from it. shame. I was dissappointed cuz i heard such great things. I was dieting and i saw no more of a change than with dieting alone. it DID keep some water out of my belly however. thats all tho.


I'm curious, i might have notieced the change in my face due to water retention, and yohimburn getting rid of it. The question is will the water retention in my face continue to happen even after i have stopped using yohimburn?

[alittlelost]

ummmmm....i only JUST heard of this stuff tonight and im very desperate to make my face leaner. Some days when i wake up (which is rare) my face doesnt seem so bad. Other times when i wake up (almost always) my face looks all chubby and round like a child. Also i should note...my face is very DRY, not just kinda sorta dry but like EXTREMELY dry. After i wash my face only minuets after my face is very tight and dry. I was just wondering if any of you (being into health and fitness and all) know of any reasons this is happening to me and can this dry irritated skin cause facial puffiness? So with that said would it be bad to use this yohimburn stuff on my face and do you think i would see results?

[saint808]

keep in mind if you don't take ypohimbine HCL on an empty stomach you will not see the effects because it must be taken on an empty stomach.... same goes with yohimburn because it is just taking it subdermally.

[Sardius]

Hi guys, new here. Has anyone ordered Yohimburn here in Canada ? I tried calling
their office in Scarborough - which is right next door from me - but no answer.
Is their office here in Toronto legit ?

On another note, hey tO4rdeez, glad things are working out for you, I have a very
similiar symptoms as you if not the same. I will see if I can get a bottle myself.

[alittlelost]

ugh, i cant seem to make an avatar for my profile. can anyone help me?

[ulter]

Sardius, The office is legit and they should answer during the week.

[Sardius]

Sardius, The office is legit and they should answer during the week.

I drove by there last week and the office was empty (moved somewhere
else, maybe ?)

Anyhow, I ordered mine from Vancouver and today (05/04/04) it arrived.
I cleaned my face as directed and slapped some YES on my face...
...it sure clears your nasal congestion !! :)

S.

[ulter]

Yeah it sure does. :)

[alittlelost]

OH SERIOUS?! my nose is always so congested that i have a hard time sleeping at night due to brething problems. I really wanna try this stuff out and it looks like it has worked well for you guys, even though i have not seen your results, i have heard great results in your posts. It would be AWESOME if i could make myself not look so baby faced for once in my life.

[alittlelost]

Oh hey, i have another question. Is this stuff capable of making the nose more defined? I mean, i have kinda a little kid lookin nose and i was just wonderin if this stuff could help that out.

[traselspain]

undefinedHi everybody, just started using Yohimburn ES. This is how I use it:

I wake up wash my face, exfoliate it, 3 sprays of Yohimburn and rub it all over my face. Drink milk and go training, 35 minutes cardio and go to work. 4 Hours later I have a meal.

Is that ok ?=? please help me. When am I going to start noticing any results?? Dows anybody have any pics they can send me ?? Thanks !!!

[Ceebs]

I wake up wash my face, exfoliate it, 3 sprays of Yohimburn and rub it all over my face. Drink milk and go training, 35 minutes cardio and go to work. 4 Hours later I have a meal.

Don't drink milk. Don't eat anything around applying it.

You should see results within a few applications if you're using Yohimburn ES.

[dillon]

Hi Ceebs,

I am new to this discussion forum but have researched Yohimburn long enough to know that outside facial lipo through plastic surgery or extreme weight loss there is no miracle way to lose the fat in your face especially if it's a genetic factor. And just for the record the member known as Macro just so happens to pop up on every single other yohimburn discussion forum i have checked out, which leads me to believe that he or she obviously may be trying to promote this product for his or her own benefit. So seeing as how a lot of you on this board claim to know a lot about Yohimburn and the way it works i would like to know why a newcomer on this board should pull out their wallet and get their hopes up for something that will come to them just the same with just diet and exercise, let me guess it speeds up the process right and targets the stubborn fatty areas wherever you apply it. This stuff came out almost 3 years ago and that's more than enough time for it to become a fitness phenomenon and miracle if it actually worked. So i'm a newcomer, can you convince me into buying Yohimburn???? I'll be waiting for your post,

Thanks for your time.

[Frackal]

LOL

Listen pal - I don't sell yohimburn, I don't give a shit if you buy it or not. I love the stuff because it does cause spot reduction, which for me, on the face, makes a huge difference in the way I look...I love how you say you've 'researched yohimburn long enough to know it doesn't work on the face...' A whole lot of people on these boards will tell you different. And macro invented the product.

Nothing like someone who knows nothing but is supremely convinced that they are that much more clever than everyone else.

[dillon]

Ok Frackal you made your point, only i never said that Yohimburn doesn't work on the face, because i never tried the stuff out myself, and that alone will be the only deciding factor of whether i believe it's an effective product or not. I was implying that the only way to get to the source once and for all is through surgery or maintaining a super low body fat percentage.
And as for thinking i'm more clever than everybody else you can throw that out the window. I tell you the only reason that my post may have been interpreted as aggressive is that people looking for an answer to their problem come to discussion forums like these. And they have their hopes high on reducing or solving their annoyance of a problem and it always ends up frustrating to learn that you have just invested in another product that people claim works for them but doesn't end up working for you. I think that's happened one too many times too a lot people and it needs to stop.

Now while it seems that i was too judgmental in my first post, i am still of the mind that you should never judge a book by it's cover but instead experience the book inside out before jumping too any conclusions, i think the same applies to this product.

I know i will end up trying out this product because there comes those rare times where you do find something that actually makes a difference and i am curious enough to know what it will or will not do for me. My face happens to be the only part of my body that carries that stubborn extra padding and that will make all the difference to me as well if i can lose some of it.

[dillon]

Hey Frackal,


I'm looking to order the product i want to try it on myself to see how my face reacts to it. I can't stand the puffiness in my face another second, it's even been a year since i had a small surgical procedure that you all may have heard of it's called a buccal fat extraction and it was totally ineffective on me for some reason, either because of my facial structure, i don't have a very strong jawline but i have decent cheekbones but hardly get to see them thanks to all that puffiness around them. That is one of the reasons why i am looking towards Yohimburn to see if it helps me. I feel if i expect the worst case scenario atleast i won't be dissapointed and if it works then i would be extremely happy and owe you all a great deal for contributing to this discussion forum . The problem is that my body is already lean and i have started doing cardio along with my weights to help slim down my face but I ended up losing most of the mass that i worked so hard to put on and what's worse my face is still puffy as hell.


I know i was skeptical in my first post but i would be ecstatic if this product did the job for me and i would like to know where i can order it from and maybe some feedback.

I also don't know if Yohimburn DF or ES is better for me if i want to lose a good amount of facial fat, because i hear some posts saying that Df is great for the Face and others saying ES is best and fastest for results on the face so i am a bit lost.

I would be extremely thankful if you could get back to me when you get a chance, this chubby face is bothering me every minute.

Good luck to you all :) .

[Ceebs]

Yohimburn ES is Yohimburn DF with more fat loss bells and whistles, and it is especially dramatic on the face. :)

To address your earlier post, I just speak highly of it because it worked for me, I don't have any financial stake in the company who sells it. The method of action has already been explained ad nauseum, and you can read about it on yohimburn.com further if you're still curious/skeptical.

[dillon]

Thanks for your post Ceebs, I just ordered Yohimburn ES through the Yohimburn.com website, i don't know where you guys ordered it from but i'm hoping that the one i ordered comes from a reputable brand.

I can't wait to try it out, i'm extremely anxious.

I do have some questions i would love to ask though sometime but i will hold them off untill i get my bottle.

[Ra]

Just so everyone here know this. We do sell this and many other products on OUR site and if you are going to buy them we would appreciate it if you purchase them through us and not go anywhere else. We are the same cost and everything the only difference is that you are supporting our site.

Please click the supplements button on the top of the page and you can go straight to our IRON STORE. Thanks!

[dillon]

As i mentioned earlier yesterday i ordered my bottle of Yohimburn ES and am awaiting it. But i would be grateful if you could let me know how the product reacts on you i mean i only want to try it on my face because that is the area that bothers me most (way too puffy). How long has it been since you've been using the product and does the fat or water come back once u stop using it??? Because the Yohimburn site claims that that is what sets them apart from other products, the results are permanent, but then i hear that some users want to order another bottle once it's done. So i am a bit confused and i hope i am not asking too much here by posting these questions. Anyway you don't have to answer these questions if you're not sure or don't want to but any info u would be kind enough to spare would be great :) .

Thank's a million.

[dillon]

Hi Ceebs,


If all goes well then i should have my bottle by tomorrow or the day after, but there are some questions that i am dying to have answered. Like i keep reading that in order for Yohimburn ES to be most effective you need to keep like a 3 hour window around application and eating. That's kinda hard if you're trying to keep muscle mass, being a guy that's one of my concerns. I even heard that caution should be taken and that carbs taken in before application will negate it's effect. I will mainly be using it for my face but i would hate to find out that i got no results cause i used it wrong. You seem to have great results with it, can you briefly share with me an average day of yours if you use Yohimburn such as calorie intake and how much carbs you're eating???
I am relatively lean with a little bit of fat around the waist but my face is very puffy.

I would appreciate any feedback as soon as u get the chance even if it is a very short message.

[Ceebs]

Like i keep reading that in order for Yohimburn ES to be most effective you need to keep like a 3 hour window around application and eating. That's kinda hard if you're trying to keep muscle mass, being a guy that's one of my concerns.

Your muscles are not going to fall into a negative nitrogen balance if you go three whole hours without eating, unless your overall calorie intake is pitieously low. :)

You could probably shrink it to two hours if you're starving or overly concerned, but it's not optimal. (ie. don't eat an hour before application, then don't eat for an hour after application - if you do 60 minutes of cardio, this is easy) All of my carbs are low glycemic from fibrous veggies, and I don't have a typical "day"... I work like a maniac and I try to grab food when I can on breaks.

The fat and water only come back after repeated Yohimburn applications if you gain bodyfat all over (obviously), and/or have a high sodium intake, or an allergic reaction to something you ate. I used to puff up if I so much as looked at wheat, or dairy, or sugar, or... you get the picture. People probably reorder it because it's a good product. :awink:

[dillon]

The fat and water only come back after repeated Yohimburn applications if you gain bodyfat all over (obviously), and/or have a high sodium intake, or an allergic reaction to something you ate. I used to puff up if I so much as looked at wheat, or dairy, or sugar, or... you get the picture. People probably reorder it because it's a good product. :awink:


You're eating habits are great by the way, i mean you just listed the 3 things that cause me the most damage meaning facial bloat. I always noticed that shortly after having dairy, wheat, or sugar that my face was very wuick to react, it's weird yet extremely annoying at the same time.

Now another reason why i think you're eating habits are great is because of the carbs that you eat, fibrous carbs like veggies cause very little if any insulin spike in your system and are great if you are trying to shed fat. It sounds a bit like the Atkins way of eating to me, my sister has been doing that for years now but that would be hard for me to follow because i would end up with a body that's way too thin so i also need and take in carbs like rice, pasta, potatoes, but also make sure to try and have salad and other healthy options. When i'm on the run i tend to have less options of what i can eat.

So as for the Yohimburn ES,

The water or fat can return whether you're still on the product or not???

I mean it makes sense that it comes back if you overeat or gain weight,

I do about 35 minutes of weights and 35 minutes of cardio 4-5 times a week
and eat the types of carbs i mentioned above like rice and pasta. Do you think i need to be eating less high glycemic carbs to see results from the Yohimburn on the face with the amount of exercise i do???


Thanks for your previous post by the way.

[dillon]

Holy crap the first five minutes are tough on the eyes with the vapours and all. But soon enough it cleared, i ran for about 35 minutes alternating between moderate and high intensity cardio and stopped only to do some push ups. It felt great to feel that burn on the face, it made me feel like it was doing it's job, only time will tell i guess, it would be nice to see something within the week but then again i have always been impatient.

Ceebs i am still awaiting your reply to my last message, i hope you can find the time to get back to me even if it's brief, thanks again. :)

[Ceebs]

So as for the Yohimburn ES,

The water or fat can return whether you're still on the product or not???

Yes, if you eat the wrong thing (water) or too many calories (fat gain). If you are wise with your diet, the cosmetic effects remain.

Eating lower glycemic carbs translates into lower insulin levels overall and will contribute to fat loss. I've said this before, and I'll say it again, I tweak my diet and training before I use supplements to augment my body. People need to focus on what they can do to lose weight before what they can take. If you find your current diet and training to yield satisfactory results with Yohimburn, you don't need to change.

How did I get to be the resident Yohimburn expert? :confused:

[dillon]

It's been 4 days and 8 applications since i started with Yohimburn i've had 3 workout sessions so far including cardio and weights and I apply it to my face 15-20 minutes before exercising. My diet includes good amounts of protein, fat, and moderate carbs. I use to eat 5 meals a day to maintain muscle mass however that has been dropped down to 3 meals nowadays with a protein shake or two in between.

It may be too early to judge but i have yet seen no difference in my face and today my face looks puffier than usual and it makes me look like crap.

Does anyone know if the Yohimburn ES causes water retention in the beggining like the old yohimburn?
And how much more time do you think i should give it before i judge the results?

I say this because everyone on theis board seems to have had good results within just a feww applications.

I would be most greatful if someone could take the time to maybe answer some questions.

[ulter]

If your face got bigger then you are likely allergic to something in it. It could be the peppermint oil or even the aloe. I would stop immediately and return the product.

[Ceebs]

If your face got bigger then you are likely allergic to something in it. It could be the peppermint oil or even the aloe. I would stop immediately and return the product.

Yes, those would be my thoughts too. Or something in your diet which you're not aware you're allergic/sensitive to.

Sorry it didn't work out for you, but at least AnaFit has a good return policy. :)

[dillon]

Thanks for your posts guys but i was wondering since it's only been 4 days, couldn't it be that i need to give it more time???

I mean after a week or a week and a half then i would probably be more convinced that it doesn't work for me.

Are you guys saying that i should have already seen results in just 4 days.
I use 2 squirts everytime for my face and apply it twice a day most days.

[ulter]

The longest I have seen anyone say it took for results to be visable is 8 days. And that was only one guy in a thousand.
You might want to lower that to once a day. But you said your face got puffier. That's why I said it could be an allergic reaction.

[Rarefish]

I've wondered this for months now (since this thread never seems to move to the second page), but shouldn't this be in the supplements forum instead of chemical enhancement? Just a thought.

[TheHamburgler]

I have finally given up on Y-ES...after 2 months of applying every morning before cardio I have seen ZERO results. So, the search continues for something that will get rid of my dreaded babyface. :bigcry:

[dillon]

I know how u feel as far as not seeing results so far. I wish there was more
that i could tell you besides the fact that i understand your frustration. I had a feeling that it might not work on everyone including myself since i have not yet seen results even after applying it on my face for almost a week.

I hope someday there is a solution for us, there's nothing more annoying or frsutrating then having a lean body but a chubby face aaarrrggghh.

[TheHamburgler]

I know how u feel as far as not seeing results so far. I wish there was more
that i could tell you besides the fact that i understand your frustration. I had a feeling that it might not work on everyone including myself since i have not yet seen results even after applying it on my face for almost a week.

I hope someday there is a solution for us, there's nothing more annoying or frsutrating then having a lean body but a chubby face aaarrrggghh.

Yea....I HATE IT!!!! I really dont want to get that surgery that you had...but, I'm kinda running out of options. I was thinking of maybe trying some facial excersises, I dont know if that will help. For now I'm stuck with my cabbage patch kid face. Goodluck Dillon...I hope that you find something that works.....what happened with your surgery, was it painful, how long did it take you to heal from it?

[dillon]

Well as far as my sugery was concerned, it was pointless. I think i would have been better off without it and as crazy as it sounds i think my face would have been thinner without it. My body's shock of having the surgery may have caused may face to puff out even more. Recovery took about a week and a half for the swelling to go down. As the months went by i kept telling my surgeon that i am not seeing anything and he kept reassuring me that it takes time. Well there you have it, it's been a year and nothing at all. I have lost 10 pounds since the surgery and my face still hasn't budged aaarrrggghhh!!!

I thought that Yohimburn would have helped me but it looks like nothing can help from what i have seen so far. My guess is the reason why everyone else is seeing results is because their diet and exercise is in check.
Another reason could be that they may have thinner skin than us causing a more drastic change. I am positive that i inherited thick skin from my parents especially in the face and that could be another factor why my face looks puffy.

Good luck Hamburgler and if you have any questions i'd be glad to help.

[bballah]

hmm.. wondering if this product will work on me..
I got a question for anyone who have used it. When you lose facial fat, your facial fat to body fat ratio will be lowered right.. did you guys maintain that ratio as you gain a bit more fat? or did you simply went to the way you were before you used YEF??..

oh yeah... and does it give you acne .. becuase i use to have a lot but i got rid of it wid accutane. don't wanna get it back...

I would greatly appreciated if someone could answer this... thanks! :)

[TheHamburgler]

Well as far as my sugery was concerned, it was pointless. I think i would have been better off without it and as crazy as it sounds i think my face would have been thinner without it. My body's shock of having the surgery may have caused may face to puff out even more. Recovery took about a week and a half for the swelling to go down. As the months went by i kept telling my surgeon that i am not seeing anything and he kept reassuring me that it takes time. Well there you have it, it's been a year and nothing at all. I have lost 10 pounds since the surgery and my face still hasn't budged aaarrrggghhh!!!

I thought that Yohimburn would have helped me but it looks like nothing can help from what i have seen so far. My guess is the reason why everyone else is seeing results is because their diet and exercise is in check.
Another reason could be that they may have thinner skin than us causing a more drastic change. I am positive that i inherited thick skin from my parents especially in the face and that could be another factor why my face looks puffy.

Good luck Hamburgler and if you have any questions i'd be glad to help.

Thanks for the help....my diet and excercise is in check as well...but, I think inherited my baby face from my dad...I looked at some old pics of my dad and he had the same type of face I do right now....I guess I'm just going to stick with my baby face, I dont think I want the surgery. I hope you find something that works...if you do let me know.

BBallah-

I used Y-ES for about 2 1/2 months...I too had acne awhile back and got rid of it with accutane....I never had a break out or got any pimples while using Y-ES.

[bballah]

I used Y-ES for about 2 1/2 months...I too had acne awhile back and got rid of it with accutane....I never had a break out or got any pimples while using Y-ES.

sweeet... so you've used accutance too huh.. yeah that stuff does work.. but itz making me lose hair which really sucks.. but newayz... thanks man :)

[TheHamburgler]

sweeet... so you've used accutance too huh.. yeah that stuff does work.. but itz making me lose hair which really sucks.. but newayz... thanks man :)

r u still on accutane? I noticed hairloss only after I stoped accutane...what about you?

[bballah]

r u still on accutane? I noticed hairloss only after I stoped accutane...what about you?

no.. i stopped accutance like a year and a half ago.. then i realized i'm losing more and more and more and more hair!... I tried 2% rogaine.. doesn't really work.. but the i tried 5%.. it works better in that it maintained the hair i have.. but when i stopped it ... i continued to lose hair.. then i tried propecia ... wasted so much freakin' money and it doesn't work... so now i'm just using 5% minxdil.. what bout u?

[TheHamburgler]

no.. i stopped accutance like a year and a half ago.. then i realized i'm losing more and more and more and more hair!... I tried 2% rogaine.. doesn't really work.. but the i tried 5%.. it works better in that it maintained the hair i have.. but when i stopped it ... i continued to lose hair.. then i tried propecia ... wasted so much freakin' money and it doesn't work... so now i'm just using 5% minxdil.. what bout u?

I have tried this stuff called folligen but, thats about it....I still dont understand why accutane causes hairloss if its not in our system anymore. I'm currently not taking anything for hairloss.

[bballah]

I have tried this stuff called folligen but, thats about it....I still dont understand why accutane causes hairloss if its not in our system anymore. I'm currently not taking anything for hairloss.

yeah i know.. the doctor told me that my hair will grow back after 6 months or a year later.. but it never did ... :madfire: guess i gotta live wid it.. shave my head (or get a hair transplant??.. yeah right)

[Sardius]

Well, it's been a month of YES usage on my face. All the excitment is gone and this product is not working for me. Cardio 3 times a week and eating veggies only for a month. :(

[dillon]

Sardius i feel your pain, i had hoped for more from this product after hearing such great things but ended up with nothing.

Good luck to us all.

[Ceebs]

Cardio 3 times a week and eating veggies only for a month. :(

Uh, only veggies? You're missing a few macronutrients there...

[bballah]

For those currently using YEF... When you lose facial fat, your facial fat to body fat ratio will be lowered right.. did you guys maintain that ratio as you gain a bit more fat? or did you simply went to the way you were before you used YEF?? (that is, did more fat get store in your face again?).. thx

[traselspain]

Hi I purchased your product a month ago and Im going to start using it now but I have a question, after using your product and losing facial fat do I have to put any type of cream after training so that my skin stays firm instead of chubby??

Please reply soon
Thanks a lot!!

[ulter]

You should be using the YES occasionally to keep the look you want. 2 or 3 times a week is usually enough once you get to where you want to be.

[macro]

agree

[t04rdeez]

You should be using the YES occasionally to keep the look you want. 2 or 3 times a week is usually enough once you get to where you want to be.


i thought the results from using it are perminant, does that mean i have to buy another bottle after i used the first one?

[ulter]

No, only surgery is permanent.
If you used an expensive skin conditioner your skin would not be softened permanently.

[SofaGeorge]

Hmmm... I always said I would try Yohimburn one day. Perhaps this summer is finally the time.

[Frackal]

Sardius i feel your pain, i had hoped for more from this product after hearing such great things but ended up with nothing.

Good luck to us all.


Humor me for a moment and list your stats and training history please. As well as diet during Yohimburn usage, and the situation surrounding the application. (Eating, training, frequency per day / week of application.)

Thanks much.



Well, it's been a month of YES usage on my face. All the excitment is gone and this product is not working for me. Cardio 3 times a week and eating veggies only for a month.


Are you losing fat elsewhere? I have a hard time believing you're genuinely eating only vegetables for a month, and your face hasn't shown any sign of getting leaner.

Even if you did not use yohimburn, but only consumed the 3-400 calories max that a vegetable only diet would entail for one month, you would have lost significant bodyweight and waterweight, which would show on your face. Let's not be dishonest please.

[RussianRocket]

I have to say guys, I've been doing facial exercises and applying YES for a month now and I've gone from a chubby baby-faced dude to someone that looks like he came straight from a model magazine cover. I have stopped recently due to one thing: ACNE.

This stuff made me break out, and big-time. It's a double-edged sword for me. :( I hope the effects will still last throughout my upcoming bulking cycle.

Props to the AF store. :)

[Ceebs]

This stuff made me break out, and big-time. It's a double-edged sword for me. :( I hope the effects will still last throughout my upcoming bulking cycle.

What's your skincare regimen? And are you on anything that would exacerbate acne? (ie, test) :)

I cannot recommend using ProActiv (http://www.proactiv.com/) and eating fresh veggies enough to keep your skin radiant, whether you're using Yohimburn or not. Keeps my usually acne-prone skin just glowing.

Still using Yohimburn sporadically on my face, BTW, and still loving it. :)

[Ihatefakegear]

where can you get yohimburn?

[macro]

where can you get yohimburn?

YOHIMBURN ES (https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop/Chemuscle/product_info.php?id=92)

[ruspa81]

I think I am going to buy ES, but I have 2 questions.

1. How many applications are in a bottle and how long should 1 bottle last?

2. Will one bottle be enough for results?

3. How long do the results stay after you stop using the product.

[ulter]

1. How many applications are in a bottle and how long should 1 bottle last?

It depends on how big you make your applications and how often you use it. That's like asking how long a box of cookies lasts on the kitchen table, it depends on who's table.
The average is about 4-5 weeks per bottle using it on two areas once a day.

2. Will one bottle be enough for results? Yes absolutely.

3. How long do the results stay after you stop using the product.
It will last until you return to the same environment that created the fat.


Nice hat

[ruspa81]

1. How many applications are in a bottle and how long should 1 bottle last?

It depends on how big you make your applications and how often you use it. That's like asking how long a box of cookies lasts on the kitchen table, it depends on who's table.
The average is about 4-5 weeks per bottle using it on two areas once a day.

2. Will one bottle be enough for results? Yes absolutely.

3. How long do the results stay after you stop using the product.
It will last until you return to the same environment that created the fat.




Nice hat

Thanks. Whats a party without a Party hat? :D

[ulter]

Thanks. Whats a party without a Party hat? :D

Damn straight.

[bballah]

Hey guys, I was wondering... If I'm on the ketogenic diet, do I still have to do cardio on an empty stomach or can I have a keto meal before cardio (since i'm worried about muscle loss)? but even if i do consume a keto meal, when i do cardio i'd still be burning fat right.. does this product work only during a caloric deficit or does it just generally work when fat loss occurs??
because if it generally works when fat loss occurs, that means i can apply it to my face even when I'm not doing cardio.. which would be sweet.. :awink:

Plus, I applied a thin layer (quarter pump per cheek) on my cheeks b4 cardio (after consumption of a meal like 2 1/2 hrs b4). I worked a bit, but still not to the thinness I want it to be. Is that way too little per cheek? I'm trying to conserve them...

But I gotta say this product is pretty sweet tho. I saw results (a little) after the first application. I know these results I see are not psychological cuz I know VERY well when my face bloats up and when its less bloated. But it kinda bloated up at night, don't know why... my face is very vulnerable to a bloat

Anywayz, hope someone can answer my questions
thx in advance :)

[ulter]

It works to release the fat. You then have to burn it off, usually with cardio. The keto meal will have little or no effect.

[bballah]

wow, that was a fast reply. Thx man..
What about the application? Would applying more equal more cheek fat loss?

[macro]

wow, that was a fast reply. Thx man..
What about the application? Would applying more equal more cheek fat loss?

yes. though as with anything there is a point of diminishing returns. And if the calorie deficit is not there then the point of diminishing returns is much lower.

[ruspa81]

Hey Guys. I got my bottle my bottle of YES yesterday. I just want to clarify something. I understand when to apply it, but how often should I apply it? I have seen people posting anywhere from once a day to 4 times a week. Also, how many pumps per side of the face should I use? Thanks.

[ulter]

Hey Guys. I got my bottle my bottle of YES yesterday. I just want to clarify something. I understand when to apply it, but how often should I apply it? I have seen people posting anywhere from once a day to 4 times a week. Also, how many pumps per side of the face should I use? Thanks.

1 pump per side, once in the morning and once at night is what most people use on their face.

[Dial_tone]

maybe i'll slap some on the face too

[luv2lft]

maybe i'll slap some on the face too


Did you just say, "slap some on big fella??" :stickout:

[ruspa81]

1 pump per side, once in the morning and once at night is what most people use on their face.

I thought it was recommened to use it before working out and that once a day was fine. Is this not correct?

[ruspa81]

This is probably a silly question, but can one still drink coffee(without sugar) around the time of application?

[Dial_tone]

Did you just say, "slap some on big fella??" :stickout:

Turn around and bend over....I'll slap something and good! :awink:
I got mine yesterday so I'll start with the face and might even try the chest.

[Elisa]

Hi everyone, i'm considering using Yohimburn ES on my face, there's not that much fat on my face but still too much for what i would like my face to be. Is there anyone who is kind enough to send me some before and after pictures to my emailadress cause i'm really interested in seeing some? My emailadress is: elsbeth_demolder@yahoo.com Thank you in advance.

[Elisa]

This is probably a silly question, but can one still drink coffee(without sugar) around the time of application?


That depends on if coffee contains a lot of calories. Personally i don't think so, but i'm not sure since i never drink coffee.

[Elisa]

I thought it was recommened to use it before working out and that once a day was fine. Is this not correct?


This is correct indeed. If you use it before working out, during the work out your body will use the fat of your face to give you energy for the workout. Once a day is also fine. Using it once a day is also more than enough, if you use it too much, your face is gonna start looking fatter cause of the water retention.

[revrza]

If possible can u post up those before and after pics u spoke about.

thank you,

[macro]

^

[macro]

any updates?

[macro]

:)

[the_stampede]

:)

thanks macro was just searching for this thread the other day! getting tired of moonface so will probably be picking some up soon.

[macro]

:)

[Not telling]

mine arrived today and i placed on my face. very slight sensation nothing to bad for me and i will keep all posted. i dont endorse what does not work and the only "natural product" i have ever raved about was m one t. it's on my face and a little on my lower abs.

[macro]

update?

[macro]

:goodevil:

[macro]

^

[macro]

:grouphug:

[saint808]

:grouphug:
interesting enough i think my body has stopped responding.... keep in mind evfen clen doesn't work on me.

[macro]

interesting enough i think my body has stopped responding.... keep in mind evfen clen doesn't work on me.

are you using AI's?
anything in your regimin or changes in body comp that you think might be related?

its quite odd, if you have A2 receptors it should still work.

sounds like you may have some type of beta adrenergic down regulation.

[XXXL IRISH]

i've come across other topical fat burners and creams, what differentiates the yohimburn from other brands? and is it worth trying another brand that may be easier to get a hold of at my local store?


may seem like a stupid question but will noticeable results be seen on my chest? i have some stubborn fat that just wont burn off, will this maybe help? im on e/c/a so will they work hand in hand? most likely right?

[macro]

i've come across other topical fat burners and creams, what differentiates the yohimburn from other brands? and is it worth trying another brand that may be easier to get a hold of at my local store?


may seem like a stupid question but will noticeable results be seen on my chest? i have some stubborn fat that just wont burn off, will this maybe help? im on e/c/a so will they work hand in hand? most likely right?

it works, it ingredients and delivery platform are without peer.

no, since most of them are just topical diuretics, only contain minimal amounts of anything but caffiene with delivery that is pathetic at best.

yes, chest typically responds very well- especially where the fat is concentrated and stubborn (this is a strong indicator of high A2 adrenoceptor presence)


yes its stacks very well with EC (you can drop the A- unless using it for heart/BP)

yes (certainly, not most likely :) )

[passionatewildflower]

My post is more for the ladies, but it worked wonders on my lower body. I'm a higher BF, so I haven't seen too much of a result on my stomach (I'm letting diet take care of that). So, I use it on my butt and thighs, I've seen AMAZING results (combined with diet). Macro can provide the scientific reasons as to why, but I definitely recommend this product.

[macro]

Women tend to have very high concentrations of A2 receptors in their hips and thighs due to estrogenic influence.

[Pablo Honey]

Just got it today. I'll be posting results within the week.

How many times a day should I used it? I do cardio about 5 times a week.

[chokeu2]

I just sprung for some Yohimburn ES, and asked for second day delivery. So hopefully I'll be able to contribute.

[Pablo Honey]

A few days of use combined with a lot of cardio and diet and I've seen no results what so ever. Starting to feel like I wasted my money and feeling like a major sucker in the process.

I'll keep you guys posted.

[XIII]

A few days of use combined with a lot of cardio and diet and I've seen no results what so ever. Starting to feel like I wasted my money and feeling like a major sucker in the process.

I'll keep you guys posted.

Try a few weeks, before passing judgment. Its a good product, you have to give it more than a few days to work. Remember, everyone is different. Just my honest .02

[Pablo Honey]

Try a few weeks, before passing judgment. Its a good product, you have to give it more than a few days to work. Remember, everyone is different. Just my honest .02

Yeah I know, I'm going to keep everyone posted but I'm just being honest.

The thing is, a lot of people in this thread were raving about how after a few days they started to see results. I believe Ulter said the longest he's seen for results to appear was 8 days.

I'm already a little skepticle about topical fat burners, which leaves me a bit jaded as to the potential results of said product.

[ruspa81]

Yeah I know, I'm going to keep everyone posted but I'm just being honest.

The thing is, a lot of people in this thread were raving about how after a few days they started to see results. I believe Ulter said the longest he's seen for results to appear was 8 days.

I'm already a little skepticle about topical fat burners, which leaves me a bit jaded as to the potential results of said product.

How has your diet been while using this?

I used it on my face and I some some results, but nothing overwhelming

However, I was at a pretty high bf and was not eating very well at the time.

[Pablo Honey]

How has your diet been while using this?

I used it on my face and I some some results, but nothing overwhelming

Strict.

I've had a strict diet the last two months. Law carbs, low fat, no sweets.

My bf% is low in general, but I can't shake the fat on certain areas (lower abs and face). Right now I'm only using it on my face. Like I said before, I'm going to finish the bottle and keep up the effort. If I see nothing happened, so be it.

But I REALLY want this thing to work and I'm putting a lot of effort towards it.

[macro]

when are you applying it?
are you exfoliating?
are you appplying to clean skin?
how much are you using and where specifically on the face (whole face, cheeks, under chin, neck, etc)?

face is an area where it seems that nearly everyone get good results, though its possible that the stubborn fat on your face is due to something other than A2.

however the fact that you have lower ab fat and face fat issues certainly indicates that there is an A2 issue.

are your legs lean?

[Pablo Honey]

when are you applying it?
are you exfoliating?
are you appplying to clean skin?
how much are you using and where specifically on the face (whole face, cheeks, under chin, neck, etc)?

face is an area where it seems that nearly everyone get good results, though its possible that the stubborn fat on your face is due to something other than A2.

however the fact that you have lower ab fat and face fat issues certainly indicates that there is an A2 issue.

are your legs lean?

I apply it about 30-40 min before my workout, after shaving and after a deep cleansing exfoliation (I heard that this increases the rate at which YES is absorbed into your system). I'm applying one pump per cheek, on my cheeks soley and not under my chin as my jaw line is pretty good. I've continued to use it and I still can't see any results.

Either my problem is not A2 fat cell related, I'm doing something wrong, or the product doesn't work on me. or maybe it's still too early to tell... I'll keep using it since I already have the bottle and hopefuly will get some results.

[macro]

update(s)?

[Pablo Honey]

update(s)?

No results on the face what so ever.

On the abs, it's worked a bit better. I now have the beginnings of a 6-pack, which is better than before.

Still, I'm super dissapointed with the results on the face. It's the reason I purchased the product. I read so many good experiences with this product, so I won't NOT reccomend it because it seems my trial was an abnormality.

[XIII]

No results on the face what so ever.

On the abs, it's worked a bit better. I now have the beginnings of a 6-pack, which is better than before.

Still, I'm super dissapointed with the results on the face. It's the reason I purchased the product. I read so many good experiences with this product, so I won't NOT reccomend it because it seems my trial was an abnormality.

Could it be possible that you just don't see the results because you are looking at yourself? You should really take pictures (before and after). I have had times when I have added mass, and lost, and would not have been able to tell unless someone told me so. You look at yourself everyday, and little changes might go un-noticed....just MO..

[Not telling]

worked great for me however when you stop it goes abck so keep using it. i was very happy with the results but honestly did not reorder simply because of surgeries than vacation and time offf rom work.

[macro]

updates?

[macro]

^^

[macro]

:dedhorse:

:)

[Redshirt27SE]

macro,

frackals been MIA for a while.

[Hardcore Rexy]

macro,

frackals been MIA for a while.
Theres a lot of people MIA round these parts.......um huh

[macro]

macro,

frackals been MIA for a while.

well that explains his lack of updates :)

though any other updates are appreciated (facial use or otherwise)

[DeathTouch]

Is it any way comparable to Thiomucase? I have used this before on my abdomen area and saw some, not great, but some results.

[macro]

thiomucase is just a dehydrating agent. Yohimburn helps utilize/burn stubborn fat.

[macro]

^^

[BigDan650dl]

thiomucase is just a dehydrating agent. Yohimburn helps utilize/burn stubborn fat.
Actually Yohimburn is a topical diuretic as well. See below per the the Yohimburn home page:
"Yohimburn DF is the ultimate fat burning gel. This gel contains the worlds most powerful fat burner Yohimbine. Our exclusive Yohimbine Delivery Solution insures the most effective delivery of Yohimbine into those fatty areas you apply it to. We have added a diuretic to help remove water retention in the area as well."

It was this threat that convinced me to give it a whirl and though I have yet to use it on my face, I have used it on my nipples to reduce the puffiness of some very mild gyno and it has been great! It really has reduced the puffiness quite a bit.

[MadMick]

Works great for me on abs during final cutting week. I've also used on my face when bulking and it seems to help.

[macro]

Works great for me on abs during final cutting week. I've also used on my face when bulking and it seems to help.

:)

[macro]

updates?

[BigDan650dl]

updates?
I have one update; I started using this on my nipples due to some slight puffiness and it has helped a lot!

[macro]

I have one update; I started using this on my nipples due to some slight puffiness and it has helped a lot!

thanks for the update

[Hardcore Rexy]

This thread is infinite

[Frackal]

Still love it.

[macro]

:) :) :)

[chalked]

:) :) :)

hmm sounds like the YES version doesnt convince me. ill go with the DF version.

[chalked]

i have a feeling it will work great on my face and give me the chiseled look

[Hazcat]

LOL..... I can't see this thread on my computer it's so transparent.

[Frackal]

I don't work for anafit

[PinkPanthar]

hey watup this is my first real post and im only really on these boards to ask this one question.

I started using yohimburn after i read about it online as the one single product that could reduce face fat and facial bloating. After 12 months of using creatine with no breaks m face was absolutely fucked. My BF was low but my face was a flipping baloon. I looked dumb. Well i stopped using creatine but the bloatting never fully went away.

So far i haent had very much sucess with yohimburn. I went through like half a bottle on my face and i havernt noticed bout anything.... and your supposed to notice like right away. I take care to shave always and exfoliate befroe application. Also i dry the area with a hair dryer just to make sure.

The one thing i havent been soo good at is the diet part. I am almost always constantly on a bulking session and i didnt even learn that this stuff should be taken on an empty stomach till this week(woops). My question is this though....

If i dont eat very constantly i get irritable AND i have a tendancy to loose muscle kinda fast i feel(more than other people). When i get up right before morning cardio i ALWAYS have a a glass of milk with 2 scoops whey and some strawberries inside. When i finish my cardio i always have the same thing right after. My question is HOW BIG EXACTLY does this 2 hour window have to be? I read that you should preferably not eat for 2 hours before and 2 hours after. OK, that means I can wake up, put it on right away and then do cardio. But if i do that i would be destroyed for the rest of the day in terms of calorie deficit.

I thought this was supposed to be a forum of weight lifters. Can you guys actualy WAKE UP and NOT eat anythign for 2 fucking hours straight? Dont you feel thats bad for you? Bad for muscle growth.

Look, I am willing to do just about anything to make this yohimburn work. HOWEVER, I would need to somebody to help me out tell me WHEN xactly i can eat on this stuff and when i can not. Hope this post made sense.

[herDOC2005]

hey watup this is my first real post and im only really on these boards to ask this one question.

I started using yohimburn after i read about it online as the one single product that could reduce face fat and facial bloating. After 12 months of using creatine with no breaks m face was absolutely fucked. My BF was low but my face was a flipping baloon. I looked dumb. Well i stopped using creatine but the bloatting never fully went away.

So far i haent had very much sucess with yohimburn. I went through like half a bottle on my face and i havernt noticed bout anything.... and your supposed to notice like right away. I take care to shave always and exfoliate befroe application. Also i dry the area with a hair dryer just to make sure.

The one thing i havent been soo good at is the diet part. I am almost always constantly on a bulking session and i didnt even learn that this stuff should be taken on an empty stomach till this week(woops). My question is this though....

If i dont eat very constantly i get irritable AND i have a tendancy to loose muscle kinda fast i feel(more than other people). When i get up right before morning cardio i ALWAYS have a a glass of milk with 2 scoops whey and some strawberries inside. When i finish my cardio i always have the same thing right after. My question is HOW BIG EXACTLY does this 2 hour window have to be? I read that you should preferably not eat for 2 hours before and 2 hours after. OK, that means I can wake up, put it on right away and then do cardio. But if i do that i would be destroyed for the rest of the day in terms of calorie deficit.

I thought this was supposed to be a forum of weight lifters. Can you guys actualy WAKE UP and NOT eat anythign for 2 fucking hours straight? Dont you feel thats bad for you? Bad for muscle growth.

Look, I am willing to do just about anything to make this yohimburn work. HOWEVER, I would need to somebody to help me out tell me WHEN xactly i can eat on this stuff and when i can not. Hope this post made sense.

No, it didnt really make sense, it sounded like a lil conversation with yourself.

This is alot of info your asking, discussing, and going over, I highly recommend you start a thread, and possibly give more information on what youve done and such



sidenote: I thought yohimbre was a supplement not an AAS?

just a thought
Peace

[Hazcat]

sidenote: I thought yohimbre was a supplement not an AAS?

just a thought
Peace
I agree, there's probably a better spot for this thread.

[jdk18374]

hey guys im new here, just want some advice on burning face fat.
first of all im not into bodybuilding, just a regular person, I do some workouts occasionally, other than that nothin pretty much.

I've heard some ppl had success on 'leaning' the face while some others said it had no effect, and even some said it made them more bloated.

my body is slim but my face make me look like im overweight, and its really bothering me. i asked the sales person on WEBSITE DELETED PRODUCT CAN BE FOUND BY CLICKING ON BUY SUPPLEMENTS ON THIS SITE and they said it may or may not work on me, theres no guarantee. I REALLY want to find a way to make my face slimmer, and Im exploring all options. Im thinking about ordering youhimburn, but dont know I really should or if the products are right for me. Does anyone have any advice for me?

btw I tried diet and exercise, somehow it doesnt work. diet is not a permanent solution and I dont want to be unhealthy. exercise...well it makes my face bload whenever i sweat right after workout...and then i get hungry. also, its NOT genetics because my face used to be slim until i gained some weight and lost it but the face fat never went away. also, whenever i pig out my face is always the first place to gain fat. so now Im just so frustrated

[ulter]

There is no guarantee that it will work for you. But there is a satisfaction guarantee. If you're unhappy with your results you can just ask for a refund. You should try it.

[KRONK]

I personally love the stuff and always get good results, and when I am lean its even better!

[MadMick]

I personally love the stuff and always get good results, and when I am lean its even better!


Same here

[tec]

ive used it before on my face and it worked well. my face was never as fat as it is now so i'm going to be trying it again soon.

I actually have a full bottle that i bought a while ago and havent used since. Does this stuff expire or lose effectiveness after like a year? maybe a year and a few weeks?

[tec]

bump anyone

[macro]

ive used it before on my face and it worked well. my face was never as fat as it is now so i'm going to be trying it again soon.

I actually have a full bottle that i bought a while ago and havent used since. Does this stuff expire or lose effectiveness after like a year? maybe a year and a few weeks?


its fine, just be sure to shake well. Have used bottles that are well over 2 years old with good effect. Though do generally reccomend use within 12 months to insure highest potency.

[macro]

updates?

[straitshooter]

the stuff didn't work at all for me, unfortunately.

[macro]

where were you using it?
calorie deficit? (just have to ask)

[poldo]

Hi evryone!im new here, ive just ordered my Yohimburn ES and i really cant wait to use it, i have a slightly lean body but my real problem is my chubby face and my puffy nipples,its very frustrating that ive been dieting very hard, been working out at the gym for 7 mos but my friends still call me chubby,when i look at myself naked in front of the mirror it seems like my face doesnt match my body, its like a "caricature"!LOL i know surgery is very very expensive, i hope Yohimburn ES will be the answer to my prayers. Ill keep you posted guys!

[macro]

be sure to update :)

[poldo]

hey guys its been two weeks since im using yohimburn ES,it really works but only on my face, ive tried it on my "puffy nipples"but it didnt work but anyway its okay at least it works on my face,my mom noticed the improvement on my face,i followed the advices here, thanks a lot for the very nice people here who posted their experiences and tips on using Yohimburn ES

[ippon]

I use YES consistently on my face, and love it. I've got some questions though. All the discussion on its effectiveness seems to center around A2 receptors (which I understand to be Aromatose, correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am).

I use an aromatose inhibitor year round (as I stay on test year round), and I adjust my dosages to make sure my estrogen levels are always at the 30 pg/mL mark on my blood tests.

So basically.. I have no estrogen excess. No overall bloat, not by a long shot (I like to stay lean year round). Yet there's a very large difference in facial leanness when I use the product versus when I don't.

I'm just curious as to how this works. Is this because my aromatose levels are low in general, but the yohimburn makes them lower in just one specific area? Making my face leaner, even though I already use an AI?

I suppose I'm looking for more information on how I can use the product efficiently alongside an AI, how the two interact, etc.

[bigmusclelove76]

I have some DF on the way and plan using it to chisle my face back up a little bit.
has it worked for you?

[macro]

I use YES consistently on my face, and love it. I've got some questions though. All the discussion on its effectiveness seems to center around A2 receptors (which I understand to be Aromatose, correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am).

I use an aromatose inhibitor year round (as I stay on test year round), and I adjust my dosages to make sure my estrogen levels are always at the 30 pg/mL mark on my blood tests.

So basically.. I have no estrogen excess. No overall bloat, not by a long shot (I like to stay lean year round). Yet there's a very large difference in facial leanness when I use the product versus when I don't.

I'm just curious as to how this works. Is this because my aromatose levels are low in general, but the yohimburn makes them lower in just one specific area? Making my face leaner, even though I already use an AI?

I suppose I'm looking for more information on how I can use the product efficiently alongside an AI, how the two interact, etc.


a2 receptors are a type of adrenoreceptor. They are affected by estrogen, but that is not the only thing that regulates them. You can also have local aromatase production (and thus local estrogen production) that is quite high while systemic levels are low.

there is no direct interaction between yohimburn and an AI. However they do have synergy when it comes to A2 expression and activity.

[macro]

updates?

[amaz]

Oh, he wasn't my date - his name's Miguel, and he played guitar for a band on the label I worked for at the time. I think he'd look less bored if he were my date. :)

dre009, macro can better answer your questions, but here are my suggestions:

Once a day at the recommended dose is sufficient, pre-cardio, at least two hours from your last meal, and do not eat for at least an hour and a half after applying it. Cleaning up your diet and improving your insulin sensitivity (factors like processed high glycemic carbs, not working out, and AAS will decrease insulin sensitivity) will go a long way towards reducing facial water and whole body retention.

Yohimbine temporarily reduces insulin sensitivity as well, which is the reason why you don't want anything that could elicit an insulin response while it's active, and why it's not much benefit if you're bulking - too much insulin, no calorie deficit. Significant fat loss won't happen if there's not a calorie deficit, period.

You may also have a food allergy/intolerance that bloats you all over, and you notice it the most in your face - wheat does horrible things to me, water retention wise.

I can't emphasize how important it is that you watch your diet and do cardio on it - I've done it both ways, strict and lax, and I've gotten so much better results when I was strict about my diet and training. I would have liked to have been leaner before starting it to really scrape away the stubborn fat, but as you can see, it works well enough even if you're not death-sucking-on-a-cracker lean.

Hi-ho cheekbones, ahoy!

I envy you..

[melkilozano]

Why can't i see the pictures, I joined just to see the pictures.... :p

And this is me in December of this year, after three weeks of halfhearted cutting, a week off with lots of chocolate :p, and six weeks of everything-dialed-in cutting, while actively using Yohimburn. I weighed in at 143 this morning.

I applied a pump and a half to my cheeks, chin, temples, and sometimes across the bridge of my nose 20-30 minutes before doing 40-60 minutes of moderate intensity cardio, four to five times a week, on a very empty stomach. I just within the last couple of weeks started the "special" Yohimburn DF, which would be four pumps, since the pumps are smaller. Same quantity, better results. :D

The one on the left was taken the morning of the 9th, after a carb-up on the night of the 7th, and I just now snapped the one on the right. No makeup, no frills.

Basically, the only way I could be more impressed with Yohimburn is if it did my laundry, bought me flowers, and kept my roots nice and blonde. (Which reminds me, I need to bleach.)

[macro]

where is dree09 post?

[DrDJ007]

After all the help this thread had done for me I had to contribute my opinion and experience.

I got my bottle a few days ago and on about day 4.
On day three I could swear that I saw my face slimmer. I used to have a sightly above average face at average body fat. After a really uncontrolled bulk I gained tons of muscle and fat and my face got puffed up everywhere and has been inflated ever since.(years)
I am now down to below average body fat but my face has held on and only slightly lost fat compared to everywhere else. After 3 days of 2 per day application I saw results and was so motivated and excited that I started doing cardio and applying 3 times a day.

If you got a drastic problem losing facial fat then you have to accept drastic solutions. No you don't have to get surgery and you don't have to live with it the rest of your life.

What you have to do is get off the couch and get some disciple. You can take care of that problem with or without Y-ES but in my opinion it works. And for all those are are afraid to jump in and just buy the damn stuff because it might not work. There is enough out there for you to see that it is working despite the conflicting opinions. It doesn't cost that much and would you rather spend your life thinking what if.

If this stuff worked for me in cruise control I can't imagine what it will do on turbo. So I'm out to find out.
And for those worrying about eating and losing muscle all I have to say is this.

I as well cannot afford to lose any muscle. But it's a matter or priorities. You can't maximize your facial fat loss with this product and baby your muscle at the same time. You KNOW you can build that muscle, what you are trying to do most is what you are unsure of and that is lose facial fat. So go do the damn thing and cut that face.
I bet you will be a lot more desirable with a chiseled and thinner look than a bulky round chipmunk.

[macro]

After all the help this thread had done for me I had to contribute my opinion and experience.

I got my bottle a few days ago and on about day 4.
On day three I could swear that I saw my face slimmer. I used to have a sightly above average face at average body fat. After a really uncontrolled bulk I gained tons of muscle and fat and my face got puffed up everywhere and has been inflated ever since.(years)
I am now down to below average body fat but my face has held on and only slightly lost fat compared to everywhere else. After 3 days of 2 per day application I saw results and was so motivated and excited that I started doing cardio and applying 3 times a day.

If you got a drastic problem losing facial fat then you have to accept drastic solutions. No you don't have to get surgery and you don't have to live with it the rest of your life.

What you have to do is get off the couch and get some disciple. You can take care of that problem with or without Y-ES but in my opinion it works. And for all those are are afraid to jump in and just buy the damn stuff because it might not work. There is enough out there for you to see that it is working despite the conflicting opinions. It doesn't cost that much and would you rather spend your life thinking what if.

If this stuff worked for me in cruise control I can't imagine what it will do on turbo. So I'm out to find out.
And for those worrying about eating and losing muscle all I have to say is this.

I as well cannot afford to lose any muscle. But it's a matter or priorities. You can't maximize your facial fat loss with this product and baby your muscle at the same time. You KNOW you can build that muscle, what you are trying to do most is what you are unsure of and that is lose facial fat. So go do the damn thing and cut that face.
I bet you will be a lot more desirable with a chiseled and thinner look than a bulky round chipmunk.


feedback and perspective appreciated :)