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Old 08-04-06, 10:07 AM   #1
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Liquid anavar & winstrol ???

Hello everyone!
I just got anavar and winstrol but LIQUID for oral use. i thought it only exist in tabs/inject. ... im just a beginner and dont want anybody to screw me..can anybody let me know if its ok...the brand is Swisher Labs...anybody heard of it? thank you so much!
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The brand is just fine, good quality. However, it is an underground lab who has gone private and prefers people not post in open forums about his brand name or product. Also Irontrybe is a board that tries hard to keep the discussion to just the chemicals and not mention the labs. You could always contact a mod with questions like this and they can either answer for you or find out in most cases. But to answer your question, yes, its good stuff.
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my understanding is that anavar doesn't stay stable in solution and rapidly degrades. Also, I'd vote hell NO on any new UG labs. These guys tend to be idiots making crap products in their garage.
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my understanding is that anavar doesn't stay stable in solution and rapidly degrades. Also, I'd vote hell NO on any new UG labs. These guys tend to be idiots making crap products in their garage.

Gotta agree. I've seen one maybe two UG labs that have had some decent stuff. I've heard some horror stories. I'd check things out with a mod before I even considered using it for sheezy.

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I just got anavar and winstrol but LIQUID for oral use. i thought it only exist in tabs/inject. ... im just a beginner and dont want anybody to screw me..can anybody let me know if its ok...the brand is Swisher Labs...anybody heard of it? thank you so much!


winstrol you can IM inject or take sublingually. i've found no scientific proof of either way working better.
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my understanding is that anavar doesn't stay stable in solution and rapidly degrades. Also, I'd vote hell NO on any new UG labs.

sofa hit this on the haed here.....both points, liquid oral anavar is a bad move right now, i wouldnt toush it at all....the winny can be liquid but honestly you have no idea what you are taking from some brand like that....more than likley made in home persons apartment....stay away....

for the var, i would go with spa if you can find it, or papervar....the paper guy also makes a great paper winny too....if not them, anyoneone who has been around 8-10 years, and anything else but these new ug labs....not good at all..
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Sorry to hijack here but I got a question, probably dumb but does it matter if it is paper or not are the side effects the same (winstrol). I had bad experience with the tabs a few years back and was wondering if it would be the same with the paper? Dumb question but I had to ask.
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I'd vote hell NO on any new UG labs.

And what makes a UG lab that's been around for years better than a lab that's been around 1-2 years? I agree that I don't want to be a test subject on a "lab" that just opened business a month ago, but once someone has been around past the year mark with nothing but good reviews and positive feedback, they are as good of a bet as someone who's been around 5+ years. There is no regulation on UG labs, so being around for a long time doesn't mean they can't and don't screw up. My worst experience was with a brand that has been around well over 5 years. I got the worst customer service ever, and vials that weren't even 75% full. Yet they still get rave reviews.

If you want to go safe, legit pharmaceuticals are your best bet, period.
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And what makes a UG lab that's been around for years better than a lab that's been around 1-2 years? I agree that I don't want to be a test subject on a "lab" that just opened business a month ago, but once someone has been around past the year mark with nothing but good reviews and positive feedback, they are as good of a bet as someone who's been around 5+ years.


Sorry bro, but I totally 100% and absolutely disagree.

Typically UG labs are all complete crap... and they almost all turn into scamemrs. They get their "rep" when somebody pops up on a board and asks about them. Then a shill for the company jumps on the thread and proclaims that the company is great and gets nothing but rave reviews. Then when a few vets mention they've never heard of the company... or that all UG labs tend to be crap... or whatever... then the shill gets all hot under the collar and starts banging the table about how they are all wrong and this UG lab really rocks the world.

... and the bottom line is their reputation for "quality" is a couple sentences typed by anonymous people on the internet.

You have to be really careful what you put into your body... especially if you are a female competitor. Women are much more at risk for side effects. Plain and simple... I wouldn't recommend any female competitor risk using a UG lab... especially a new one. So I agree with you that a real pharmaceutical company is the way to go.
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Typically UG labs are all complete crap... and they almost all turn into scamemrs. They get their "rep" when somebody pops up on a board and asks about them. Then a shill for the company jumps on the thread and proclaims that the company is great and gets nothing but rave reviews. Then when a few vets mention they've never heard of the company... or that all UG labs tend to be crap... or whatever... then the shill gets all hot under the collar and starts banging the table about how they are all wrong and this UG lab really rocks the world.

True many times. But I've also watched some of the longest standing UG's get their head up their ass. It becomes quiet clear that mods and vets are the only ones who have no complaint, probably due to the UG lab kissing their ass and making sure to take good care of them. Then they give a shit less about any newbies or people who aren't post whores on the boards and have mods and vets flame anyone who complains. Seen this with 3 different long standing companies. That's why I say there's no difference between 2 years in business and 5+ years in business. Now someone who's been in business for one month? That is truly different. Bottom line is their are no 100% bets in the UG world, regardless of longevity.


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Plain and simple... I wouldn't recommend any female competitor risk using a UG lab... especially a new one. So I agree with you that a real pharmaceutical company is the way to go.

This we can easily agree on.
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As a vet on many boards public and private I have heard nothing but excellent reviews about his products, I also seen numerous tests results performed on his gear and they came back slightly overdosed. I agree that there are many UG's that are scammers but I also think it is unfair to lump them all into one group. There are some really good ones out there if you do your research. I know that he has been around for a couple of years now and has seen others come and go and if he built enough of a business and rep that he can go private I think that says alot about him.
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As a vet on many boards public and private I have heard nothing but excellent reviews about his products, I also seen numerous tests results performed on his gear and they came back slightly overdosed. I agree that there are many UG's that are scammers but I also think it is unfair to lump them all into one group. There are some really good ones out there if you do your research. I know that he has been around for a couple of years now and has seen others come and go and if he built enough of a business and rep that he can go private I think that says alot about him.

Panzer, sorry bro but your post is typical of what happens when someone starts blowing smoke about a UG lab. You came here and created a handle just so you could put up a post about how great their rep is. Sorry... but that carries less than no credibility.

UG labs are almost always scam driven outfits... and they put up their own posts to create their praise.
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Panzer, sorry bro but your post is typical of what happens when someone starts blowing smoke about a UG lab. You came here and created a handle just so you could put up a post about how great their rep is. Sorry... but that carries less than no credibility.

UG labs are almost always scam driven outfits... and they put up their own posts to create their praise.
Seems a lil fishy that Panzer just popped up Sofa. Ive never heard of him on any other boards as well.

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Seems a lil fishy that Panzer just popped up Sofa. Ive never heard of him on any other boards as well.

Gator has extrasensory perception and smells a rat.

That would be because Panzer only created his account to tell us all how great Swisher is. It's his first post here... made moments after creating his account.
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My refs are anyone from Chaos, Zoldian, Muscleup, Purplehaze, Basskiller, etc etc I assume that you have heard those names yes/no? I could go on but seriously what is the point! been around since a.com and never changed my handle.
Yeah I did come on here because I got word that someone who has a very good rep was being tarnished without anyone knowing anything about him and I was curious to see what was up. If you don't like ug labs that is fine but don't say that all UG labs are scammers because that simply isn't true. Anyone who has doubts about me are welcome to check me out but then again your minds are already made up. Sorry about that

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